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Comment from: PhilzGr8 [Visitor] Email
You should consider quieter hard drives. Samsung appear to make some of the quietest at this pont.
27/04/07 @ 12:24
Comment from: String [Visitor] Email
Don't forget extra software to get DVDs tp play back ie FFDShow/anyDVD etc.
27/04/07 @ 12:32
Comment from: tyronne27 [Visitor] Email
you may want to consider fitting 3 drives in the case fast maybe 10k rpm 80GB SATAII (OS) 2 x 500 GB SATA II (RAID0).
27/04/07 @ 13:10
Comment from: tyronne27 [Visitor] Email
I would also disagree on the choice of case, zalman hd160 is much better and looks more like hifi equipment than the antec. in practice is width/height of my yamaha amp but twice as deep.

the sound blaster xfi is a bit of overkill (personally) onboard sound such as realtek ALC880 with optical out works very well under vista. and is more than enough for a htpc
27/04/07 @ 13:15
Comment from: Damon [Visitor] Email
Not a bad spec list, I agree with others that WD drives seem to be noisier. The noise is more of a hissing sound that "drive" you insane eventually.

The DNTV PCI-e S2 card despite all the right noises from Renura the distributer is fundamentally flawed. I have this card and on 2 different motherboards the card with either dissappear from device manager or tuner 1 will stop working for no reason at all whenever it feels like it.

While I am in a complaining mode the Zalman HD135 case is a nice looking case let down by useless cooling with noisy fans. The VFD display/ software "made" by VL Systems is the most rubbish product/software and crap support I have seen in many years.

Other than that have fun and don't forget all about the EPG problems and how the ICE guide gets stuffed up every few days on CH7 and SBS.

rgds Damon
27/04/07 @ 15:49
Comment from: Stephen WITHERS [Member] Email
How about the Thermaltake Mozart http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/desktop/mozart/vc4000_index.asp or Mozart Sx http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/desktop/mozart_SX/vc7000_index.asp cases?

I'd echo the point others have made about the disk drives and warn that the same applies to the DVD drive - I don't know what the Pioneer is like, but the LG I used in a media centre project turned out to be far too noisy!

And what about a FireWire interface for your camcorder? I couldn't see one mentioned in the motherboard specs.
27/04/07 @ 16:48
Comment from: Adam TURNER [Member] Email
Stephen - I reckon the Thermaltake cases are pretty ugly. There's debate over WD v Samsung HDDs, but you might be right about the DVD drive - will have to investigate that further. This is exactly why I'm starting with a draft spec and taking comments, thanks everyone for the great feedback so far. I thought there was onboard FireWire, if not I'd probably add a FireWire card.

I've had people recommend the Zalman HD160 case, which takes ATX - has also given me something to think about.
27/04/07 @ 17:03
Comment from: David [Visitor] Email
Your biggest flaw currently, IMHO is the OS. Vista Anything is currently not up-to-scratch for HTPC functionality (in Australia anyway)

Windows XP Media Centre 2005 is probably a better pick. Why? The EPG. Forums are chock full of unresolved issues with the IceTV system in Vista. Simply put, there is no way an average Joe could use the system without going nuts!

Second reason Vista is no go with the hardware specified.. Nvidia!
The drivers for Nvidia are still in what I could only call beta. There is NO DESKTOP resizing - only a few standard sizes which dont suit everyone.. So your average Joe is going to hate is Desktop and start bar overflowing into thin air.

Anyway, People are getting Vista working - albeit with the above exceptions - But for now, if you really want your readers to actually use their Media Center - reccommend XP MCE.
27/04/07 @ 18:44
Comment from: John Griffin [Visitor] Email
First - hard drives. The Samsung Spinpoints are the best for HTPC's in my opinion as they are quieter, and bloody cheap - i have 3x500GB @ $165ex each.

The DNTV dual card is brilliant, the comment above is the only negative review i have ever read.

Vista - as said, it's not quite ready for prime time yet. The guide issue isn't ICE specific, but doesn't affect all users either, i'd say 20% or so at a guess.
The nVidia drivers for Vista are also a complete disgrace. I spent 3 months struggling with them with 3 different nvidia cards, bought an ATI card, and my problems went away. The 8800 may be better than my ATI card, but my ATI card just *works*. Wait 3 months, and it should all be ready for prime time.
28/04/07 @ 13:07
Comment from: Adam TURNER [Member] Email
I'm thinking the best option is to building a dual boot box, running XP MCE and Vista Home Premium, so I can try both. That way I can see for myself if/where Vista falls short.
28/04/07 @ 14:12
Comment from: elder norm [Visitor] Email
Hmmm, I agree.
Change out the hard drives
change out the dvd drive
Get a prettier box
hmmmmm, lets see, I know there is one more thing..........

Oh yes the OS. Definitily change the OS out. I would use OSX. Hmmm, the AppleTV comes to mind.

Then again, you want a system that you have to fight to make work, so never mind. :-)

PC computer systems remind me of an old Harley. It ran but you were always repairing it and it leaded all over the place. But it was a Harley, right??? :-)

en
05/05/07 @ 06:39
Comment from: Adam TURNER [Member] Email
But the Apple TV doesn't do anything. Won't record, no optical drive, no TV tuner. The Apple TV isn't even in the same category as a home theatre PC.
06/05/07 @ 15:38
Comment from: Adam TURNER [Member] Email
A healthy debate about this has sprung up at the Vista and XP Media Centre Support Community

I've posted by updated spec list there, please drop by and let me know what you think.
10/05/07 @ 00:31
Comment from: Rob D [Visitor]
So Adam, Time for an update here, did you get a rig up and running?
I've got one going myself and the pq is superb!
It's driving a 70" Sony sxrd panel - pure joy!!

"But the Apple TV doesn't do anything."
lol - quite true, just an interface and only 5mb/s source at that - sd??
07/04/08 @ 04:48
Comment from: Cobus [Visitor] Email
This discussion is really fascinating! Specially since I have built practically the same machine. I do have a serious challenge though - How do you record a home video from a camcorder connected to a firewire port onto a local harddrive or directly onto a dvd using only Windows Media Centre in Vista ultimate?
20/07/08 @ 05:32
Comment from: Adam TURNER [Member] Email
Sorry, Cobus, I don't know. I'm pretty sure you'd want third part software like Adobe Premiere or Premiere Elements. Even if Vista can do it, I'm guessing it would be pretty basic.
20/07/08 @ 10:52
Comment from: David HAGUE [Member] Email
No can do Corbus... without going into detail technically, the camera is hard wired to send its data to where it is supposed to go (tape, HDD, SD). You can get a preview out, but not data.
22/07/08 @ 14:28

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